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		<title>By: AndreasDavour</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndreasDavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only have one digest sized book that I have used repeatedly, and that&#039;s the 7.5 ed. Tunnels &amp; Trolls. 

The fact that it stays flat (spiral binding, out of the box) is nice, but would probably be of much more use if it was a game where you had to have complex rules in front of you all the time.

So, for me the biggest win is something else. It takes up less space on the table. I love to have GM notes, maps, combat sheet, dice and all kind of stuff on the table. The players probably wants to have maps, sheets, pencils and snacks. Not much room left for a folio to lie open on that table.

That being said, I prefer to read the bigger format.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6594&#039;,&#039;AndreasDavour&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only have one digest sized book that I have used repeatedly, and that&#8217;s the 7.5 ed. Tunnels &amp; Trolls. </p>
<p>The fact that it stays flat (spiral binding, out of the box) is nice, but would probably be of much more use if it was a game where you had to have complex rules in front of you all the time.</p>
<p>So, for me the biggest win is something else. It takes up less space on the table. I love to have GM notes, maps, combat sheet, dice and all kind of stuff on the table. The players probably wants to have maps, sheets, pencils and snacks. Not much room left for a folio to lie open on that table.</p>
<p>That being said, I prefer to read the bigger format.
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		<title>By: Sewicked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sewicked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6579&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Martin Ralya&lt;/a&gt; - Well, if the book isn&#039;t having problems, yes, it makes me cringe, too. But when the pages have come loose and have started dropping out...that cut &amp; rebind is a book-saver.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6580&#039;,&#039;Sewicked&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-6579' rel="nofollow">@Martin Ralya</a> &#8211; Well, if the book isn&#8217;t having problems, yes, it makes me cringe, too. But when the pages have come loose and have started dropping out&#8230;that cut &amp; rebind is a book-saver.
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		<title>By: Martin Ralya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Ralya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6561&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Kurt &quot;Telas&quot; Schneider&lt;/a&gt; - This solution makes my insides squirm. Gutting books? INSANITY.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6579&#039;,&#039;Martin Ralya&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-6561' rel="nofollow">@Kurt &#8220;Telas&#8221; Schneider</a> &#8211; This solution makes my insides squirm. Gutting books? INSANITY.
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6577&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Kurt &quot;Telas&quot; Schneider&lt;/a&gt; - So true, but this was back around 1990. These days when I run my 2nd edition D&amp;D game I carry the laptop with some of the books as PDFs as well as my game notes -- adventure, places, npcs, etc. Gotta love the find feature!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6578&#039;,&#039;Zig&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-6577' rel="nofollow">@Kurt &#8220;Telas&#8221; Schneider</a> &#8211; So true, but this was back around 1990. These days when I run my 2nd edition D&amp;D game I carry the laptop with some of the books as PDFs as well as my game notes &#8212; adventure, places, npcs, etc. Gotta love the find feature!
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		<title>By: Kurt "Telas" Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt "Telas" Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6575&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Zig&lt;/a&gt; - A laptop with a few PDFs would have made your life a whole lot easier.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6577&#039;,&#039;Kurt \&quot;Telas\&quot; Schneider&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-6575' rel="nofollow">@Zig</a> &#8211; A laptop with a few PDFs would have made your life a whole lot easier.
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6574&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sewicked&lt;/a&gt; - Hearing of rolling duffels/crates of rule books reminds me of years ago when I rode a motorcycle and ran a 1st edition Shadowrun game. I had a backpack stuffed to the gills, a duffel bag bursting at the seams and a milk crate strapped to the luggage rack at the end of the bike. Needed all of that cart along all the rule books, supplements, dice, and loads of notes, maps and such. I think I was a pretty funny sight going down the road to my friend&#039;s place where my group played. Digest sized books would have made my life a lot easier.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6575&#039;,&#039;Zig&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-6574' rel="nofollow">@Sewicked</a> &#8211; Hearing of rolling duffels/crates of rule books reminds me of years ago when I rode a motorcycle and ran a 1st edition Shadowrun game. I had a backpack stuffed to the gills, a duffel bag bursting at the seams and a milk crate strapped to the luggage rack at the end of the bike. Needed all of that cart along all the rule books, supplements, dice, and loads of notes, maps and such. I think I was a pretty funny sight going down the road to my friend&#8217;s place where my group played. Digest sized books would have made my life a lot easier.
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		<title>By: Sewicked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sewicked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite game system is &#039;normal&#039; game book size but the supplements are all digest-sized, a little taller than a regular paperback book. That makes transporting them to conventions, etc so much easier. I&#039;ve seen the rolling duffle/crate to carry the range of D&amp;D and then I have my backpack on wheel with 2-3 copies of gamebook, 1 each of the supplements &amp; my expanding folder of adventure info (pre-gens, NPCs, handouts, etc). It&#039;s so much easier that frankly it&#039;s a huge relief for my back.

When I buy PDFs &amp; take the option of printing them out, I almost always use the booklet format. Yes, the print is smaller but they are so much easier to carry.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6574&#039;,&#039;Sewicked&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite game system is &#8216;normal&#8217; game book size but the supplements are all digest-sized, a little taller than a regular paperback book. That makes transporting them to conventions, etc so much easier. I&#8217;ve seen the rolling duffle/crate to carry the range of D&amp;D and then I have my backpack on wheel with 2-3 copies of gamebook, 1 each of the supplements &amp; my expanding folder of adventure info (pre-gens, NPCs, handouts, etc). It&#8217;s so much easier that frankly it&#8217;s a huge relief for my back.</p>
<p>When I buy PDFs &amp; take the option of printing them out, I almost always use the booklet format. Yes, the print is smaller but they are so much easier to carry.
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		<title>By: BryanB</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The digest size books are great, unless they have a font size that is so small that you need an electron microscope to read it. :D&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6563&#039;,&#039;BryanB&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The digest size books are great, unless they have a font size that is so small that you need an electron microscope to read it. <img src='http://www.gnomestew.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Zig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the digest sized books for a couple of reasons. The first is that I am more likely to check a new system or setting out if I can get it that cheaply. It&#039;s why I picked up a copy of the Savage Worlds game. The Explorer&#039;s edition was only $10, so I didn&#039;t feel like I was taking a risk on buying it after hearing some good things about it. The second is that they are handy to have several copies around to share with the players or, at that price point, my players are my apt to buy their own copies of the game.

I also wouldn&#039;t mind editions of some systems where only the essential rules information was included that was in such a compact (and cheaper format). I think you could do something like this with the D&amp;D Player&#039;s Handbook. Leave out the magic item section, cut some sections -- have equipment tables, but no descriptions, etc.

That being said, I still love my hardcover books as a GM/DM and would probably buy a hardcover edition of a system I was going to run after checking it out in a digest sized format initially.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6562&#039;,&#039;Zig&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the digest sized books for a couple of reasons. The first is that I am more likely to check a new system or setting out if I can get it that cheaply. It&#8217;s why I picked up a copy of the Savage Worlds game. The Explorer&#8217;s edition was only $10, so I didn&#8217;t feel like I was taking a risk on buying it after hearing some good things about it. The second is that they are handy to have several copies around to share with the players or, at that price point, my players are my apt to buy their own copies of the game.</p>
<p>I also wouldn&#8217;t mind editions of some systems where only the essential rules information was included that was in such a compact (and cheaper format). I think you could do something like this with the D&amp;D Player&#8217;s Handbook. Leave out the magic item section, cut some sections &#8212; have equipment tables, but no descriptions, etc.</p>
<p>That being said, I still love my hardcover books as a GM/DM and would probably buy a hardcover edition of a system I was going to run after checking it out in a digest sized format initially.
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		<title>By: Kurt "Telas" Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt "Telas" Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they are more likely to fit on a bookshelf as well!

Solution for cracked spines, loose pages, and leaving books open on the table:

Go to Kinko&#039;s, OfficeMax, or a local copy shop, and have them spiral-bind the book for you.  It&#039;s a few bucks, and you can even have them put clear sheets in the front and back.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6561&#039;,&#039;Kurt \&quot;Telas\&quot; Schneider&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they are more likely to fit on a bookshelf as well!</p>
<p>Solution for cracked spines, loose pages, and leaving books open on the table:</p>
<p>Go to Kinko&#8217;s, OfficeMax, or a local copy shop, and have them spiral-bind the book for you.  It&#8217;s a few bucks, and you can even have them put clear sheets in the front and back.
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		<title>By: Patrick Benson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6557&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Nojo&lt;/a&gt; - You must be 6 inches tall then? ;)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6559&#039;,&#039;Patrick Benson&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Benson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments all!

&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6551&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bastian.Flinspach&lt;/a&gt; - The lying flat at the game table problem has never been a real issue for me. I prefer to use bookmarks and post-it notes with all of my books instead of leaving any of them lying open. I can see how that would be a problem though if you prefer to leave the book open.

&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6552&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@deadlytoque&lt;/a&gt; - Note that in the picture there are two indie games, and two non-indie publishers releasing digest size books. I don&#039;t believe that there is a connection between being an independent owner/creator/publisher and the format used. A lot of stuff that I have purchased from indie game producers uses the typical 8.5 x 11 type format.

&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6553&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@John Arcadian&lt;/a&gt; - I&#039;m sure if WotC thought that there was a profit to be made they would publish condensed versions of all of their books. I bet they only do the hardcover thing as more of a brand recognition thing. You would definitely need multiple books, but with D&amp;D when haven&#039;t you required more than one book? :)

&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6554&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Toldain&lt;/a&gt; - Agreed.

&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6556&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rafe&lt;/a&gt; - For me cracking the spine of a book is a non-issue. The more damaged my copy is the more likely I am a fan of the game. Yet I do see your point, and if you like to keep the books in good condition digest size books are harder to maintain in most cases.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6558&#039;,&#039;Patrick Benson&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments all!</p>
<p><a href='#comment-6551' rel="nofollow">@Bastian.Flinspach</a> &#8211; The lying flat at the game table problem has never been a real issue for me. I prefer to use bookmarks and post-it notes with all of my books instead of leaving any of them lying open. I can see how that would be a problem though if you prefer to leave the book open.</p>
<p><a href='#comment-6552' rel="nofollow">@deadlytoque</a> &#8211; Note that in the picture there are two indie games, and two non-indie publishers releasing digest size books. I don&#8217;t believe that there is a connection between being an independent owner/creator/publisher and the format used. A lot of stuff that I have purchased from indie game producers uses the typical 8.5 x 11 type format.</p>
<p><a href='#comment-6553' rel="nofollow">@John Arcadian</a> &#8211; I&#8217;m sure if WotC thought that there was a profit to be made they would publish condensed versions of all of their books. I bet they only do the hardcover thing as more of a brand recognition thing. You would definitely need multiple books, but with D&amp;D when haven&#8217;t you required more than one book? <img src='http://www.gnomestew.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href='#comment-6554' rel="nofollow">@Toldain</a> &#8211; Agreed.</p>
<p><a href='#comment-6556' rel="nofollow">@Rafe</a> &#8211; For me cracking the spine of a book is a non-issue. The more damaged my copy is the more likely I am a fan of the game. Yet I do see your point, and if you like to keep the books in good condition digest size books are harder to maintain in most cases.
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		<title>By: Nojo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way. I demand books big enough to take shelter in.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6557&#039;,&#039;Nojo&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way. I demand books big enough to take shelter in.
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First digest-sized RPG books I ever bought were the Burning Wheel books.  Loved the size and portability right from the get-go.  Also, softcover RPG books seem to have longer lives since the bindings don&#039;t break away from the hardcover spine and such.  The only drawback is that you can&#039;t really open them up on a table -- you have to be holding them to keep them open (unless you crack the spines, which I personally detest).

Also, for some reason, I find digest-sized RPG books to be more inviting.  Just because of the size, they seem more accessible.  Cost is also a huge plus.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6556&#039;,&#039;Rafe&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First digest-sized RPG books I ever bought were the Burning Wheel books.  Loved the size and portability right from the get-go.  Also, softcover RPG books seem to have longer lives since the bindings don&#8217;t break away from the hardcover spine and such.  The only drawback is that you can&#8217;t really open them up on a table &#8212; you have to be holding them to keep them open (unless you crack the spines, which I personally detest).</p>
<p>Also, for some reason, I find digest-sized RPG books to be more inviting.  Just because of the size, they seem more accessible.  Cost is also a huge plus.
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		<title>By: Toldain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toldain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think all the material in PH or DMG could be fit into a digest book, but then it wouldn&#039;t have art or the nice expansive layout.  And they couldn&#039;t charge as much for it.  

However, publishing a rollup &quot;rules digest&quot; in paperback digest could be interesting.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6554&#039;,&#039;Toldain&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think all the material in PH or DMG could be fit into a digest book, but then it wouldn&#8217;t have art or the nice expansive layout.  And they couldn&#8217;t charge as much for it.  </p>
<p>However, publishing a rollup &#8220;rules digest&#8221; in paperback digest could be interesting.
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